#jayce on the other hand

[funnyscienceman]

ok listen i know i said 'theyre the exact same picture' one time but they're actually not, they're really fucking not. for one thing, graves wouldn't leave TF to get screwed over by rich people—

[sleepyminty]

Timebomb-Jayvik dynamic is so funny bc we have:

Begrudgingly acknowledge each other despite that one time Ekko haggle the fuck out Jayce and Jayce accidentally polluted the underground

Two strikes and they started throwing slurs at each other

[slavhew]

good ol days

[kapelukh]

[jayktoralldaylong]

"We finally got Jayvik, why aren't you happy?"

Cause Jayce's bisexuality is getting erased by the Jayvik fans. 😑 (I swear it was the exact same problem with Meljay, people insisting that Jayce is not gay. Now, they're doing it the other way around and pretending like he only tolerated her. Which is insane).

Like bisexual people are fictional characters and it is IMPOSSIBLE for people to love more than one person.

Even if you don't ship MelJayVik, saying that Jayce at no point loved Mel? That his feelings for her were not real??? Whaaaat?

Fought so hard just to win and lose at the same time. Cause yeah, people now agree that Jayce is in love with Viktor.......and now they're erasing Mel.

"Mel is an empath so she only reflects-"

Yeah, she's REFLECTING all the LOVE that Jayce feels for HER and PROVING that he feels it for Viktor TOO!! Mel is not a replacement Viktor, they look nothing like, they act nothing alike. 😭 They are two different and yet similar people and he loved them BOTH!

People really took "Mel is an empath" and ran with it right into the ditch.

[mollysunder]

The funniest thing about Jayce is that while yes, he's juggling other peoples' interests/loyalties, he's only sort of malleable and mostly kind of uncontrollable. People can tell Jayce something and he will in fact listen to it, absorb the new information, but it's a genuine gamble to guess what he does with that information.

Heimerdinger tells him exactly how to avoid punishment for his trial and Jayce DOESN'T do it. Jayce decides to defend himself and the merit of his work. The Medardas want hextech weapons (for varying reasons), Viktor says no, meanwhile Jayce already has blueprints laminated and framed in his room.

Jayce didn't ask to be a Councilor, but he immediately throws himself into rooting out corruption. When Mel tells him he's gonna need to play ball to stay alive politically, Jayce goes, "Ball is life". Then Jayce manages to amass enough political capital to kick off HEIMERDINGER of all people.

Second to Jinx, Jayce is the character that asserts the most agency in the cast. People really try to pull Jayce in this and that direction, but his character, his morals, just who he really is pushes at any supposed binary others try to place him in. The choices he makes always align with his core, and it inevitably puts others in a position to accept the consequences of bringing up the issue to him in the first place.

[ellenchain]

Forgive me if you've already answered this somewhere else but is Jayce's leg still super fucked up in his new remade body? I know you mentioned that his wrist is scared from where the runestone was ripped out, but is his leg and back also scared over or are they still arcane-y from the contamination/infection of the future world?

Anyway love love love all your jayvik work, and i think your finalized explanation of post-canon viktor retaining the machine herald look while still being able to look human is so far my favorite of the genre :D

Ohh no no, I didn't answer that anywhere (and even if I did, I'd be happy to answer it again)!

In my head (and thus in my comic), Jayce will get a normal back scar, since it was a chainsaw that injured him before his journey, and an arcane scar on his leg.

The back injury was certainly still open when he landed in the other universe, yet I don't think the anomaly had much effect on that wound - we see his lip burst open and other minor injuries that didn't end up being contaminated. That's why I don't think his back has been infected (but of course it's possible)

The leg is another thing. It broke and healed while he was in the other dimension. It healed badly, which is why he will probably have problems walking or even running for the rest of his life (modern medicine as we know it to perform bone correction seems unlikely). So it makes sense that he continues to wear a brace.

After s2 now hard to say...

The rune had an effect and I strongly suspect that both were cured of their hexcorisation. The magic has presumably not only healed Viktor, but also Jayce. The question is how much they were healed.

Because there's still a knot in my head: Viktor was terminally ill, the hexcore healed him, but also modified his body. The Arcane could have replaced the hexcore and therefore changed his body. We can see from Viktor's legendary skin that he has a normal body with arcane markings. Mage Viktor also has normal hands again, from what we've seen; guess he has mastered to handle the Arcane to transform his body back - maybe the rest looks similar to his legendary skin with arcane scars.

So it stands to reason that our Viktor now also has a human body again, possibly with the scars of the Arcane running through it.

Long story short, but if the arcane could heal Viktor completely (body and illness), it would also heal his leg injury. Same with Jayce's.

But to be honest, that would be an erasure of the things that make them who they are. That's why I've decided for myself that Jayce and Viktor will keep their injuries (voluntary or involuntary; I haven't decided yet). As a sign of their journey together, their connection and of course to continue to give weight to Jayce's words that beauty lies in imperfections.

That's why they still wear braces. When naked, the scars are probably clearly distinguishable from the other leg. As a sign that the arcane was there.

At the end of the day, it's just my theories and I'm not that familiar with the original lore, so it may well be that Viktor ends up keeping his machine body and Jayce is spit back out of the rune unchanged as a human 🙃

BUT thank you so much for your lovely words, I'm really happy to hear that you like my work 🥺❤️

[kurthummeldeservesbetter]

the mischaracterizations of both Viktor and Jayce are killing me because:

They are both fucking nerds/geeks like those two believed in magic not only when it was banned and could get them exiled but also when 90% of the world didn't like. they were absolute geeks. canonically they spend 75% of their time together, and the other 25% is either them alone, Jayce with Mel/the Council, and Viktor with Sky (sort of) or talking to Singed.

Jayce is definitely as introverted/lonely as Viktor. He had no friends besides Caitlyn in S1A1 and only gained MAYBE 2 more after Viktor. He did not have a partner nor trusted anyone with what he was working on. No one else came to his defense at the trial. Boy was a loner, not a popular academy student with tons of friends.

VIKTOR IS GOOFY. Look at his face when Jayce asks him if he thinks their plans in act 1 will work! He's like "Crank it!" after seeing Jayce use it. He tries to use a bedroom lie when he gets caught breaking in. He steals keys TO break in just cause. He's excited explaining new creations to Jayce. He's excited (at first) when Jayce gives the speech!

Jayce is smart!!!!! Like yes he is very much a himbo in the sense of his energy, but he's not the "dumb one" of his and Viktor's pair, they're equals. just rewatch how he explains the arcane/hexcore/hextech to Ekko, or the whole scene in general. he keeps notes on Viktor while he's in the hexcore despite never having any prior experience with anything like it before. They understand each other easily. the braincell they share has an IQ of like 1000.

Viktor not only wears all his emotions on his face (in fact, he is very emotional) he also doesn't shy away from touch! His reciprocation is allowing the touch from Jayce (hands on back, shoulders, sides, hugs) because he also likes it! and he's not afraid TO show emotion! (that's why the whole machine herald thing was so intense, he went from having ALL the emotions to like 1 or 2 traumatically).

Viktor admires Jayce as much as the reverse: it's why he's mad/annoyed at him during the politics era: he knows the real Jayce, and not "his Jayce" but the real Jayce who is a scientist who wants to help people. It's why he's so open with him, why he's so betrayed and leaves when Jayce uses the hexcore on him, because his heart was broken. because the Jayce he knows is incredibly intelligent and focused and wants to actually help people.

JAYCE IS SELFISH. THEY BOTH ARE. From day one these assholes are only thinking about each other, they have each other on the top of their respective lists, but they don't know it. Viktor almost dooms an entire universe out of a selfish perspective to "cure" the world (forgetting choice is the upmost important thing) and after he got rejected from the one person he loved.

Jayce has always put Viktor first, even despite Viktor's wishes (the hexcore) and from the end of S2A2 on, his only main priority is Viktor, it just so happens saving Viktor also saves the world. this asshole tells Viktor in front of the whole hivemind that magic (which did improve everyone's lives basically until it got corrupted) wasn't worth it because he loses Viktor. because any other writing would have had Jayce be like "im letting him go to save the world" and Jayce is "I'll never let him go, even if it dooms the world".

[ecao]

Reading some of this Arcane discourse…some of y’all did NOT pass english class and it shows.

[beastking-golion]

Saw a fic about vastaya Viktor and if you ask me he’s definitely a bird (or salamander if you wanna super angstify him- cough cough Rio cough).

[jaycecore]

yeah I definitely think jayvik aren’t the parental type; but the uncle type? oh yeah no question

[p4nishers]

viktor is acespec u say? no. uhhhm nooo. jayce on the other hand YEAHHH

[goddessofroyalty]

Resending my question just in case it got eaten, but can u please elaborate more on the Vanco baby's uncle-like relationship with Viktor and Jayce growing up? (As someone with a significantly older sibling I can definitely relate to that feeling lol)

Not only the age gap, but also the fact that their big brother literally brought a new dawn of technology to the two cities with Jayce? I imagine there's this subconscious pressure on the Vanco baby to be a model citizen. Also imagining Silco enlisting Viktor to help keep his baby sibling in line during the rebellious teen/nightmare phase. They're still Zaunites after all.

Just anything you're thinking of regarding their big brother relationship, really ❤️

Yeah it got eaten (had kind of thought Tumblr had stopped doing that but apparently not).

So going by my math (of quite frankly Silco's age) the youngest Vanco is probably born while Hextech is still in the stages of being developed or like only around the time of the initial releases not when it's really starting to hit its peak popularity. Not that that really matters seeing as the kid probably doesn't have memories from before Hextech was big but still feel like I need to note. Partially because is means Viktor and Jayce are spending a lot of time in their labs and therefore easy to locate babysitting when Silco needs it while he's in Piltover.

The gap is the kind where not only could Viktor (and Jayce) be the kid's parents it wouldn't even be that socially unacceptable for them to be seeing that they are both in their (early) 20s when the baby is born. Before Jayce's face at least is plastered everywhere and people Know Him And His Story people regularly assume if they are around that they're the baby's parents (especially with how much the kid looks like Viktor). And again they're not even judgemental about it and treat them like they are Irresponsible because of the baby. Which you know causes a lot of very awkward situations for either still dancing around each other or only just gotten into a relationship Jayce and Viktor.

While the heavy shadow Viktor casts definitively hangs a bit over his youngest siblings head I do think the Thing that defines the kid the most is that they are the first child to truly grow up in the limeline in both the cities. They have been attending Piltover Council meetings from a couple weeks old (if they want to call a four hour meeting they can just deal with Silco having his baby with him he's not walking all the way back to his office to feed them). But they've also been running around the Last Drop since they could run around.

When they're young they struggle with how to behave where. Because in Zaun nobody cares if they're climbing on the furniture and getting into mischief while in Piltover all eyes are on them as an extension of the Zaun Representative and so have to be model behaviour to not give ammunition to throw at their family. They do figure it out as they get older but it's definitively a struggle in those early developmental years.

Viktor has always been a borderline third parent to his younger siblings more than a brother (the age gap but also he had less interest in the kinds of things they were getting into). Funnily enough he's actually less of a third parent and more of that uncle figure to the youngest because he isn't living at home anymore. Which in some ways makes the shadow Viktor casts loom less compared to the others. Having a rich and successful uncle feels less intimidating than having a rich and successful older sibling. Yes it's not exactly that because Viktor is still their sibling but the gap is so large they're less being directly compared to him than the other four feel like they are and it's more just part of the culmative Success of the whole family that feels like expectation.

Even with not living at home Viktor's still getting roped into babysitting now and then and does get looked at to provide advice as someone who moves between Zaun and Piltover culture a lot (although by the time the kid is old enough for teenage rebellion Vi is also dating a Piltite).

[bornwholocker]

Maybe this is too narrow of a fandom overlap but.. jayvik as newt & hermann from pacific rim is calling to me.. i have ideas for a whole AU forming in my head bro caitvi as mako & raleigh jinx being yancy bro someone please hear me IT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE WITH THEIR DYNAMIC vi underestimating cait in hand to hand like raleigh did to mako and then getting her ass kicked i could rewrite the whole damn movie with arcane characters with the way my stupid brain is making connections..this started just as me thinking abt jayvik and then suddenly thinking abt pacific rim and going “oh i could see them doing the reseach at the thunderdome like newt and hermann” and now I can’t stop thinking about this whole thing

I don’t know who would be more more of the newt or the hermann role though… neither of them really fit either character to a T, with viktors past with singed and his whole deal I could see him being interested in kaiju biology but at the same time I’m thinking about maybe he’d be more invested in stopping the rift like maybe he lost someone in a kaiju attack or some shit I don’t know I just have ideas man.. and connecting to the kaiju attack idea I could def see Jayce getting overly excited about kaiju and that causing like tension between him and viktor bc as much as we love jayce our boy can be a little oblivious and/or tonedeaf at times </3

Mmm but with the cait-mako bit part of me says yeah her mom could be stacker pentacost but also ambessa is calling to me in which case really Mel would be mako so you’d need a whole new role there which you could def make work but I’d wonder how to work in the caitlyn thing because with how her mom made her quit being an enforcer in s1 after she got put in danger on progress day if I remember correctly, they could definitely have that dynamic of cait wanting to go fight and be a pilot and her mom not wanting her in danger and definitely not wanting her around vi lmfao

I don’t know it’s almost midnight this is just me throwing spaghetti at the wall but perhaps it’ll stick for some nerds like me out there

[anachronisticbones]

just finished arcane, jayvik seriously needs to just get married like omg please 💀💀💀

[machneherald]

“ew are they trying make [insert female character here] and [insert male character that’s in a popular yaoi ship] happen” imagine being so stuck in fanon that women pixels makes you this angry